Alas, I have been called a MORAL RELATIVIST! By another anarchist too! Here is our debate (comments on his blog post). And what did this come out of? Well, I simply stated that individual moral values cannot be considered more than mere opinions of the individuals themselves. This is because they are nonenforceable. If I cannot go and correct something in my neighbour's behaviour then he officially has the right to do it, and something you have the right to do cannot be immoral. The logic is simple. If this was not the case, rights wouldn't make any sense. How could someone have a right to do something immoral? That contradicts the very definition of rights. After all there is "right" and there is "wrong". Right being moral is a tautology.
"So how can we oppose things like unfairness, or exploitation on moral grounds?" asks the leftist. Firstly, I judge unfairness or exploitation through the prism of the non-aggression axiom. If someone has agreed to be treated in a certain way, then the action cannot be aggression. And if someone breaks my property rights and I punish them, that is not aggression either. Leftists would disagree, but that is because they do not respect the non-aggression axiom enough. They hold other beliefs which are contradictory to it.
What about the case of animal cruelty? Clearly I have written multiple times that it is evil, but does not break the non-aggression axiom. The answer is simple: In my viewpoint animal cruelty is evil. This is just a personal opinion I hold. And this, though it might seem weak, is actually not weak at all. What we call my mere opinion is LAW on my private property just like non-aggression is the LAW in the world at large. Yes, my house is my Kingdom (Monarchism!). My word is Law on my property. In a leftist world this would be impossible because we do not really "own" land or space as property. No one can present a good enough explanation why not, of course, but they still claim so (even Herbert Spencer was on their side here!). I usually see this anti-land-ownership fetish as an old vestige of religious dogma as introduced into modern ethics by Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, and Adam Smith.
Anarcho-capitalists are voluntaryists in the sense that we believe voluntary exchanges to be always mutually beneficial ex ante. If this makes me a moral relativist, then people like leftist anarchists are MORAL ILLUSIONISTS. Their morality cannot work. We cannot have an ideal utopia of mutually beneficial relations ex post facto because we do not know what effect our actions will have on both parties. Let me illustrate this with an example. If I give someone a million dollars, then in the voluntaryist morality I am perfectly entitled to do so and I am moral. So is the receiver of the money, he did nothing wrong. But now let's assume the next day he buys a Ferrari and accidentally runs it off of a huge cliff while his wife is in the car. Nobody can accuse me of wrongdoing, despite the fact that ex post facto my action of giving the man the money is what actually caused the car-accident. The accident would never have taken place if not for me! But I think we can all see how silly such thinking is. We cannot interrelate all actions in the world this way or else everyone would be guilty of everything. But to some people this is not so absurd. We can actually see leftists argue this way in socialist states where prisons are built for resocilization programs rather than punishments. After all, the individuals in the prisons are just a product of their society, the lefties say. The rapist and the thief were helpless! The society is guilty! We just put them in a comfy hotel for 5 years and let them out if they cry in front of a psychologist...
Sunday, 3 April 2011
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You confuse a number of different philosophical ideas and misrepresent leftist positions in your straw man argument regarding moral illusionists. On top of that, Locke argued that the right of self-defense is in proportion to the crime itself and that any punishment beyond the measured crime itself is to be appropriately labeled aggression in an essay concerning the true origin, extent, and end of civil government, which he wrote after Second Treatise. This is a joke, right?
ReplyDeleteI do not confuse anything here, it is clear and concise. Entire books could be written on this subject, of course, but nonetheless this simple posting exposes the "objective" nature of all leftist mumbo-jumbo. That is to say, there is nothing objective about it at all, and whole entire theories of exploitation based on "objective" theories of value (like the labour theory of value) are all completely false. Locke, like others who applies the labour theory of value, was wrong. Just because excessive punishment might be against my morality or another person's morality does not mean that the victim cannot administer it on the aggressor. It is his right, even if I disagree with what he/she is doing.
ReplyDeleteYou are the first "anarcho-capitalist" to say that you have the right to kill another for stepping on your blade of grass. This is reductio ad absurdum and highly disturbingly how you distort Lockean degrees of punishment.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the ex post facto part has already been addressed by mutualists (who apparently have a Utopian moral construct, revealing how little you've actually read of their "mumbo-jumbo"), which you conflate in terms as being part of the "leftist anarchists" category, which is besides the point since apparently you seem to think that anyone outside the anarcho-capitalist mold is a "lefty," as if they are not even libertarian let alone anarchist but a devolved form of Soviet statist boot-men ready to collectively replace it.
I certainly think any self-respecting anarcho-capitalist would accept my reasoning. After all it is anarcho-libertarians who use the reductio ad absurdum as a common way of argument and proving their points (very effectively, I might add!). There is absolutely nothing wrong with my reasoning and I see no reason to change any of my conclusions.
ReplyDeleteThis does not mean, of course, that I do not think there are such things as excessive punishments. Shooting someone for trespassing would be just plain cruel (unless the trespasser had malicious intentions). So please do not make it sound as if I ADVOCATE such cruel treatment. I support acting humanely and mercifully towards not only humans, but other living creatures.